Madonna, the Queen of Pop, is stepping into new territory — and this time it’s not on stage, but behind the microphone. At 67, the music legend has granted her very first podcast interview, joining author and host Jay Shetty on his popular show On Purpose. The upcoming episode, airing Monday, gives fans a rare and intimate glimpse into Madonna’s personal world, focusing on her decades-long spiritual journey.
Throughout the conversation, Madonna reflects on how spirituality became a defining part of her life shortly before the birth of her first child, Lourdes Leon. She shares how her discovery of Kabbalah in the mid-1990s shaped her worldview and guided her through both triumphs and challenges. “You need to be spiritual to be successful. Success is having a spiritual life, period. I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t have one,” she tells Shetty during the candid exchange.
The seven-time Grammy winner, known worldwide for breaking boundaries and speaking up for human rights, reveals that her sense of purpose has always been tied to helping others. “What have I done for others? That’s really the only way you can be successful in life,” she explains. For Madonna, light and darkness are two sides of the same coin. She stresses that revealing light where it is most needed — in moments of struggle, uncertainty, and pain — is the truest form of strength.
In a vulnerable moment, Madonna also admits she once struggled with being a “slave or victim of other people’s opinions.” Over the years, however, she has learned to embrace the fact that she doesn’t fit in — and that standing apart is exactly what has kept her resilient. She also acknowledges the importance of humility, reminding listeners that life’s blessings can vanish at any time, and that radical acceptance is key to moving forward.
The episode even features her longtime Kabbalah teacher, Eitan Yardeni, as the two announce a new course titled The Mystical Studies of the Zohar, set to launch on September 29. Through it all, Madonna makes it clear that her spirituality is not a passing interest but a foundation — the very force that has carried her through decades of reinvention. For fans who have long admired her fearless creativity, this rare look at her inner life reveals yet another layer to the woman who continues to inspire millions around the globe.
